{"id":5898,"date":"2021-11-11T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2021-11-11T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ctzn.punkt.sk\/?p=5898"},"modified":"2026-05-20T16:22:07","modified_gmt":"2026-05-20T14:22:07","slug":"citizen-lydia-gresakova","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ctzn.punkt.sk\/en\/citizen-lydia-gresakova\/","title":{"rendered":"Citizen: L\u00fddia Gre\u0161\u00e1kov\u00e1"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Mesto tvoria jeho ob\u010dania. \u010comu sa venuj\u00fa a\u00a0ako \u017eij\u00fa zauj\u00edmav\u00ed \u013eudia z\u00a0prostredia architekt\u00fary, urbanizmu, ekol\u00f3gie \u010di komun\u00edt? Jeden respondent odpor\u00fa\u010da \u010fal\u0161ieho, ktor\u00e9ho vn\u00edma ako in\u0161pirat\u00edvneho. Ka\u017ed\u00e9mu posielame anal\u00f3gov\u00fd fotoapar\u00e1t Olympus mju, aby\u00a0odfotil seba a\u00a0svoje okolie.<\/p>\n <\/div>\n\n\n\n

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\u2022 Som sociologi\u010dka, v\u00fdskumn\u00ed\u010dka a aktivistka. Zaober\u00e1m sa udr\u017eate\u013enos\u0165ou miest, mo\u017enos\u0165ami mestotvorby v\u0161etk\u00fdmi akt\u00e9rmi a akt\u00e9rkami, facilit\u00e1ciou a kritickou reflexiou \u00falohy umenia a intervenci\u00ed v spolo\u010denskom dian\u00ed. A rada fot\u00edm na film. Aktu\u00e1lne p\u00f4sob\u00edm v kolekt\u00edve odborn\u00ed\u010dok v oblasti mestotvorby Spolka.cc, a som \u010dlenkou dnes pas\u00edvnej\u0161ieho Kolekt\u00edvu Imaginace zameran\u00e9ho na nez\u00e1visl\u00fd sociologick\u00fd v\u00fdskum. V minulosti som napr\u00edklad konzultovala a facilitovala participat\u00edvne procesy v PDCS, a p\u00f4sobila ako v\u00fdskumn\u00e1 pracovn\u00ed\u010dka v In\u0161tit\u00fate mestsk\u00e9ho a region\u00e1lneho pl\u00e1novania na TU v Berl\u00edne. Tam si rob\u00edm doktor\u00e1t na t\u00e9mu mestotvorby na Slovensku a v \u010cesku.<\/pre>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n
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Ak\u00e1 superschopnos\u0165 je nevyhnutn\u00e1 v tvojej pr\u00e1ci?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n
Superschopnosti m\u00f4\u017eu so sebou prin\u00e1\u0161a\u0165 dojem, \u017ee s\u00fa nie\u010d\u00edm, s \u010d\u00edm sa \u010dlovek rod\u00ed ako Wonder Woman a in\u00e9 postavy so superschopnos\u0165ami. \u201eIngrediencie\u201c pre pr\u00e1cu v Spolke sme v\u0161ak v\u0161etky \u010dlenky a \u010dlenovia z\u00edskali a st\u00e1le z\u00edskavame postupne. Pozn\u00e1van\u00edm a rozhovormi, \u010di u\u017e s rodinou, priate\u013emi a priate\u013ekami, po\u010das \u0161t\u00fadi\u00ed a praxe sociol\u00f3gie, po\u010das ciest. Nie ka\u017ed\u00e1 a ka\u017ed\u00fd \u010dlovek m\u00e1 dostato\u010dn\u00e9 soci\u00e1lne z\u00e1zemie pre to sa u\u010di\u0165, cestova\u0165 a experimentova\u0165.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Jednou z t\u00fdchto z\u00edskan\u00fdch schopnost\u00ed je pre m\u0148a predov\u0161etk\u00fdm predstavovanie si mo\u017en\u00fdch aj nemo\u017en\u00fdch bud\u00facnost\u00ed \u010di u\u017e kolekt\u00edvu ako tak\u00e9ho alebo projektov, na ktor\u00fdch pracujeme. Tu sa naozaj d\u00e1 poveda\u0165, \u017ee n\u00e1jdenie si priestoru pre zastavenie sa a predstavy o mo\u017en\u00fdch bud\u00facnostiach za hranicami aktu\u00e1lneho je v s\u00fa\u010dasnosti tak orientovanej na okam\u017eit\u00e9 rie\u0161enia probl\u00e9mov a kr\u00edz veru superschopnos\u0165ou. D\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e1 je aj schopnos\u0165 l\u00e1sky a z\u00e1ujmu o priestor a citlivos\u0165 k tomu, \u010do a kto priestor tvor\u00ed a je pri jeho pl\u00e1novan\u00ed vynech\u00e1van\u00e9. Chu\u0165 meni\u0165 veci. Schopnos\u0165 komunikova\u0165 tak, aby to \u010do hovor\u00edm, bolo zrozumite\u013en\u00e9 pre r\u00f4zne skupiny \u013eud\u00ed (\u010di u\u017e s\u00fa to poslanci, \u00faradn\u00ed\u010dky, stakeholderka, neodborn\u00e1 verejnos\u0165), schopnos\u0165 vedie\u0165 facilitova\u0165 a vyjedn\u00e1va\u0165. Medzi to potrebn\u00e9 k pr\u00e1ci sa tak mie\u0161aj\u00fa vymenovan\u00e9 hodnoty a zru\u010dnosti v met\u00f3dach. Tu je e\u0161te d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9 spomen\u00fa\u0165, \u017ee ostatok Spolky s pozad\u00edm architekt\u00fary \u010di urbanizmu by pravdepodobne pridala orient\u00e1ciu na mape, kreslenie, \u010di cit pre estetiku. To s\u00fa moje ve\u013ek\u00e9 slabiny a preto je vlastne najd\u00f4le\u017eitej\u0161ou superschopnos\u0165ou pre pr\u00e1cu v Spolke to, ako spolo\u010dne vytv\u00e1rame priestor pre rados\u0165 zo vz\u00e1jomnej spolupr\u00e1ce, starostlivos\u0165 a u\u010denie sa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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\u010comu sa aktu\u00e1lne s najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161ou rados\u0165ou venuje\u0161?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n
Moment\u00e1lne mi najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161iu rados\u0165 rob\u00ed v\u00fdskum, na ktorom pracujeme s kolegy\u0148ou Zuzanou Taba\u010dkovou v r\u00e1mci doktor\u00e1tu. Toto leto som nav\u0161t\u00edvila r\u00f4zne organiz\u00e1cie na Slovensku a v \u010cech\u00e1ch. V\u0161etky maj\u00fa nie\u010do spolo\u010dn\u00e9: svojimi aktivitami prin\u00e1\u0161aj\u00fa do mestsk\u00e9ho pl\u00e1novania t\u00e9my a perspekt\u00edvy, ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa v mainstreamovom pl\u00e1novan\u00ed miest nevidite\u013en\u00e9, marginalizovan\u00e9, respekt\u00edve stoja na okraji pozornosti a z\u00e1ujmu. Cie\u013eom je presk\u00fama\u0165 potenci\u00e1ly, mo\u017enosti a limity ich miestotvorby pre mo\u017en\u00fa zmenu tradi\u010dn\u00e9ho pl\u00e1novania na inkluz\u00edvnej\u0161ie, otvorenej\u0161ie. To znamen\u00e1 pl\u00e1novania nielen pre horn\u00e9 \u201e1%\u201c obyvate\u013estva. V r\u00e1mci v\u00fdskumu sa z\u00e1rove\u0148 sna\u017e\u00edme polo\u017ei\u0165 z\u00e1klady na\u0161ej vlastnej pr\u00e1ci v r\u00e1mci Spolky a zisti\u0165, s \u010d\u00edm sa pasuj\u00fa organiz\u00e1cie zaoberaj\u00face sa bud\u00facou podobou miest a mestsk\u00fdm pl\u00e1novan\u00edm v na\u0161om geografickom kontexte a tak umo\u017eni\u0165 zdie\u013eanie sk\u00fasenost\u00ed a budovanie vz\u00e1jomnej podpory. Stretla som sa napr\u00edklad s organiz\u00e1ciou Dedo, ktor\u00e1 zoh\u013ead\u0148uje potreby ohrozen\u00fdch rod\u00edn bez domova a pracuje na programe \u201ehousing first\u201c v Ko\u0161iciach. Na Gemeri som nav\u0161t\u00edvila V\u010del\u00ed kRaj, zd\u00f4raz\u0148uj\u00faci potreby ope\u013euj\u00faceho hmyzu ako je napr\u00edklad v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ia heterogenita zelene, a rozpr\u00e1vala som sa aj s \u010ciernymi Dierami, ktor\u00e9 sa staraj\u00fa o \u010dasto zabudnut\u00e9 a opusten\u00e9 budovy a priestory (a po novom aj komunity okolo nich). Tieto organiz\u00e1cie ma svojimi aktivitami povzbudili sa na\u010falej u\u010di\u0165 a h\u013eada\u0165 form\u00e1ty pr\u00e1ce potrebn\u00e9 k vytvoreniu podmienok pre lep\u0161\u00ed \u017eivot a lep\u0161ie bud\u00facnosti n\u00e1s v\u0161etk\u00fdch. S\u00fa pre m\u0148a akousi protiv\u00e1hou k \u017eia\u013eu, ktor\u00fd c\u00edtim v s\u00favislosti s environment\u00e1lnou, pandemickou a spolo\u010denskou kr\u00edzou.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Kde \u017eije\u0161 a kde by si chcel\/a \u017ei\u0165? \u010co preferuje\u0161: mesto, vidiek, les, pl\u00e1\u017e, hory?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n
\u017dijem v Bratislave, kam som sa v marci pres\u0165ahovala po 11 rokoch str\u00e1ven\u00fdch v zahrani\u010d\u00ed – \u017eila som v Brne a pred pr\u00edchodom sem v Berl\u00edne. P\u00f4vodne som z Ko\u0161\u00edc a rozhodne sa d\u00e1 poveda\u0165, \u017ee som \u010dlovek preferuj\u00faci mesto, jeho zvuk, farebnos\u0165 a dynamiku, mno\u017estvo slu\u017eieb, komunitn\u00fa ale aj anonymn\u00fa atmosf\u00e9ru a kult\u00farne vy\u017eitie. E\u0161te po\u010das \u0161t\u00fadi\u00ed som po\u010dula t\u00e9zu, \u017ee ak \u010dlovek neostane v rodnom meste, \u010dasto vyh\u013ead\u00e1va pre \u017eivot miesto atmosf\u00e9rou podobn\u00e9 tomu, z ktor\u00e9ho poch\u00e1dza, a ku ktor\u00e9mu mal \u010di mala dlhodob\u00fd vz\u0165ah. M\u00e1m rada mesto kde sa d\u00e1 ve\u013ea kr\u00e1\u010da\u0165 a bicyklova\u0165, a z ktor\u00e9ho je to bl\u00edzko do doliny aj na kopce, mesto, ktor\u00e9 je komunitn\u00e9. Z miest kde som \u017eila som bola naj\u0161\u0165astnej\u0161ia v Berl\u00edne – okrem spomenut\u00e9ho aj pre r\u00e1z \u0161tvrt\u00ed povzbudzuj\u00faci stret\u00e1vanie sa. Je to mesto pln\u00e9 farieb, neust\u00e1le otvoren\u00fdch obchodov a obrovsk\u00fdch mestsk\u00fdch parkov, v ktor\u00fdch sa viem na strieda\u010dku prech\u00e1dza\u0165 alebo bicyklova\u0165 hodiny.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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\u010co \u0165a in\u0161piruje a naopak roz\u010du\u013euje na meste kde \u017eije\u0161?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n
V Bratislave som zatia\u013e len kr\u00e1tko. M\u00f4\u017eem sa podeli\u0165 akur\u00e1t tak s \u010darom mojich prvotn\u00fdch dojmov a in\u0161pirat\u00edvnych impulzov z t\u00fdch p\u00e1r prech\u00e1dzkov\u00fdch \u201erande\u201c, ktor\u00e9 som zatia\u013e s mestom mala. Bratislavsk\u00e1 \u201enepl\u00e1novanos\u0165\u201c a organickos\u0165 ul\u00edc a budov je rozhodne nie\u010d\u00edm, \u010do ma ve\u013emi bav\u00ed. Ka\u017ed\u00fd de\u0148 nach\u00e1dzam nov\u00e9 ulice, z\u00e1kutia a nov\u00e9 pr\u00edbehy, ktor\u00e9 sa via\u017eu \u010di u\u017e k miestam alebo k z\u00e1\u017eitkom, ktor\u00e9 sa na nich udiali. Jedn\u00fdm z tak\u00fdchto miest je ur\u010dite vn\u00fatroblok medzi Justi\u010dnou a Karad\u017ei\u010dovou ulicou, kde \u013eudia tr\u00e1via svoj vo\u013en\u00fd \u010das, alebo len tak obeduj\u00fa na pozostatkoch po lavi\u010dk\u00e1ch, starom detskom ihrisku a preliezkach. Tie si vzala sp\u00e4\u0165 mestsk\u00e1 buni\u010dnina. Vn\u00fatroblok sa m\u00e1 revitalizova\u0165 a paralelne s pl\u00e1nmi na revitaliz\u00e1ciu som zachytila aj pet\u00edciu od susedov. Je to zauj\u00edmav\u00e1 dynamika. V oblasti urbanizmu a architekt\u00fary ma in\u0161piruj\u00fa aj tunaj\u0161ie texty. Napr\u00edklad tie od t\u00edmu Henriety Morav\u010d\u00edkovej z tunaj\u0161ej STU a mno\u017estvo vedomost\u00ed, ktor\u00e9 v s\u00favislosti s Bratislavou zbieraj\u00fa. Z t\u00fdch vec\u00ed, ktor\u00e9 ma sk\u00f4r za\u0165a\u017euj\u00fa je tunaj\u0161ia nedostato\u010dn\u00e1 ob\u010dianska vybavenos\u0165. Mestsk\u00e9mu charakteru nasved\u010duje ulica s obchod\u00edkmi v pr\u00edzem\u00ed – Kr\u00ed\u017ena, no zatia\u013e som na\u0161la len t\u00fato. Ch\u00fdba mi viac podobn\u00fdch ul\u00edc, men\u0161ie obchody otvoren\u00e9 po siedmej hodine ve\u010der, viac ve\u013ek\u00fdch obchodov \u010di kaviarne. V centre mesta je z\u00e1rove\u0148 ve\u013emi slab\u00e1 rozmanitos\u0165 kult\u00farnej sc\u00e9ny. Z tej alternat\u00edvnej\u0161ej kult\u00fary som si stihla navykn\u00fa\u0165 na program elektri\u010dky T3, no aj t\u00e1 sa z centra ods\u0165ahovala. Prv\u00e9 tri mesiace mojich prech\u00e1dzok a zoznamovania sa s Bratislavou som sa tie\u017e sna\u017eila n\u00e1js\u0165 miesta, ktor\u00e9 by povzbudzovali stret\u00e1vanie sa. Miesta napr\u00edklad s ping-pongov\u00fdm stolom – klasika pre tr\u00e1venia \u010dasu komun\u00edt vonku takmer na ka\u017edom rohu v Berl\u00edne – ktor\u00e9 zatia\u013e h\u013ead\u00e1m ne\u00faspe\u0161ne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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Ak by tvoje mesto bol \u010dlovek, kto by to bol?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n
Nepovedala by som, \u017ee by pre m\u0148a bolo mesto jedn\u00fdm \u010dlovekom. S\u00edce sa d\u00e1 poveda\u0165, \u017ee budova\u0165 si vz\u0165ah s mestom je ako budova\u0165 si vz\u0165ah medzi \u013eu\u010fmi. Prv sa letmo spozn\u00e1vate, neisto kr\u00e1\u010date postupne viac a viac zn\u00e1mymi ulicami. \u010c\u00edm viac \u010dasu spolo\u010dne tr\u00e1vite, t\u00fdm viac sa pozn\u00e1te, budujete si vz\u0165ah, zamiluv\u00e1vate sa. No mesto sa pre m\u0148a vyzna\u010duje pr\u00e1ve pluralitou \u013eud\u00ed, objektov, rastl\u00edn, zvukov a farieb, ktor\u00e9 obsahuje.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Daj n\u00e1m tip na dobr\u00fa knihu. \u010co teraz \u010d\u00edta\u0161?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n
\u010c\u00edtam moment\u00e1lne ve\u013ea akademickej literat\u00fary k doktor\u00e1tu, ktor\u00e1 sa dot\u00fdka urbanizmu, starostlivosti a feminizmu. Napr\u00edklad znova \u010d\u00edtam titul od autoriek Krasny a Fitz – Critical Care: Architecture and Urbanism for a Broken Planet. Z toho \u010do som si ale vybrala dobrovo\u013ene mimo akademick\u00e9 povinnosti je to \u010d\u00edtanie a po\u010d\u00favanie n\u00e1vodov slovenskej platformy Unseen.help. Platforma sa s\u00fastre\u010fuje na techniky po\u010d\u00favania a naladenia sa na priestor a jeho zvuky. Tomu sa venuje aj kni\u017eka, ktor\u00fa \u010d\u00edtam: How to Disappear. Je to najm\u00e4 o sluchov\u00fdch cvi\u010deniach a o tom, ako zvuky umo\u017e\u0148uj\u00fa zmizn\u00fa\u0165 alebo znovuobjavi\u0165 sa (v skupine alebo celkovo). Kniha je od Haytham El-Wardany z nakladate\u013eskej iniciat\u00edvy kayfa-ta.com<\/a>, kde s\u00fa aj \u010fal\u0161ie skvel\u00e9 knihy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Koho by sme mali oslovi\u0165 \u010falej a pre\u010do? <\/h4>\n\n\n\n
Ve\u013ek\u00fdm vzorom s\u00fa mi \u017eeny v na\u0161om kolekt\u00edve Spolka, ale je mnoho os\u00f4b, ktor\u00e9 ma ovplyvnili, vyber\u00e1m Meike Schalk. Meike sa venuje prieniku architekt\u00fary a urbanizmu s feministickou te\u00f3riou a pr\u00edstupom starostlivosti o mest\u00e1 vo Viedni.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n
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9. NOVEMBER 2021<\/p>\n
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Rozhovor pripravila: Zuzana \u017durkinov\u00e1<\/a><\/strong>
\nFotografie: L\u00fddia Gre\u0161\u00e1kov\u00e1
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